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Sept 4, 2005 0:38:29 GMT -8
Post by ihoppoet on Sept 4, 2005 0:38:29 GMT -8
Brandy I'm the same way, my friend Bootz and I were film bodies because no one else in their right mind would see a film with us. We’d have to hunch down and wait for the second showing to enjoy the story of the film, as the first time around we viewed it almost as if we were watching dailies. Out of the choices we’ve seen I’d have to chose either 2001, or a new hope, as every other movie in the list had effects that had already been seen before. The Abyss was Great but lets face it they didn’t invent the liquid motion they used it was used on Terminator first. Jurassic park was an awesome film, with its glorified animatronics, its cgi was top of the line, but I don’t feel it was a huge step up. Same with Ep 1 and the Matrix, what made ep 1 top of the line was the use of HD video rather than 35mm. Twister while a great film, after all it took place in the great state of Oklahoma, plus I was a storm tracker for FEMA, it doesn’t belong with this group of films, and Brainstorm, come on, are you talken to me?
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Sept 4, 2005 14:13:45 GMT -8
Post by cybertron on Sept 4, 2005 14:13:45 GMT -8
I wonder why there isn't another poll for let say: "The worse science fiction/Vfx movies"... I have a few in mind....
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Sept 4, 2005 15:12:10 GMT -8
Post by prasannasid on Sept 4, 2005 15:12:10 GMT -8
I would say The Matrix. But I gotta admit, Star Wars is a very close second... It was the Matrix that propelled me into the field of VFX. The Matrix, unlike Jurassic Park that used a lot of CG, was more of VFX involving real people and awesome compositing. I personally just dont like animals (or creatures) running around creating havoc....
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Sept 4, 2005 16:01:50 GMT -8
Post by jacks30 on Sept 4, 2005 16:01:50 GMT -8
I say 2001 because of the time in which it was made. I couldn't imagine doing all of those visual fx without a computer!
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Sept 4, 2005 17:33:09 GMT -8
Post by george on Sept 4, 2005 17:33:09 GMT -8
"2001 Space Odyssey" was a very easy choice for me, as I consider that film my favorite film of all time. "Star Wars" Episodes 1 & 4, "Jurassic Park" and "The Matrix" are great candidates because those films are were so cutting edge, but "2001 Space Odyssey" was created in 1968! I still watch that movie in amazement. I always wonder what it was like to walk into a theatre in 1968 and view that film for the first time. Kubrick was such a perfectionist, and was constantly tweaking the film to get it right. Kubrick successfully created the feeling of weightlessness. There are some really cool camera techniques that are cutting edge, like when the astronaut is jogging in the circular space...and when the stewardess is walking around in the circular doorway, holding the tray. The spacecraft hold their own to the 3d generated ships of today, and there is a great sense of enormity in their scale. What I am most impressed by, is the timelessness of this film. The story, special effects and the whole package still captivate me every time I watch it.
One interesting thing that I found out the other day is that the letters H.A.L. are a step below from the letters I.B.M.
There are a few films not on the list that I feel should get honorable mentions. "Attack of the Clones" , i believe, the first 100% digital film. Watching this film in a digital theatre, absolutely floored me. When they were on the clone army planet, the deepness of color in the white walls was something I had never seen before. The clarity was amazing. Watching this in digital really kick started my interest working in an all digital environment. Another film is "Sin City". Robert Rodriguez created the majority of this film with actors, guns, cars, green screens and computers on his property in Austin, Texas. Rodriguez proved that creating amazing visual effects digital technology is not just for the big budget films like Star Wars. It actually is a cost effective way to create an amazing film. It's a big step in moving the industry into giving independent filmmaker's a chance to create their vision, without big studio influence. "Bladerunner" is another one of my favorite films. It's aesthetically one of the best sci-fi films out there, with Syd Meade doing much of the concepting.
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Sept 4, 2005 22:08:37 GMT -8
Post by ihoppoet on Sept 4, 2005 22:08:37 GMT -8
I have to agree, the at the time they made 2001, 1967, the effects were out of this world, pun intended, there was a TV show created by Gerry Anderson for the bbc called space 1999, its effects were the forerunner for 2001, which in turn was the muse for Lucas’s Star wars, I’m not quite sure what happened in the world of British sci-fi, as after 1999, the bbc tried their hand with Dr Who, a great show but the effects were truly at their time, rather than beyond them.
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Sept 9, 2005 9:11:24 GMT -8
Post by cybertron on Sept 9, 2005 9:11:24 GMT -8
U.k had some of the most ground-breaking people in the visual and special effects world. People like Les bowie, Derek Meddings, Roy Field, Coilin Chilvers, Dennis Barlet, Mike Trim and the list goes on and on. By the Way, Derek Meddings is reponsible for all the special effects for almost all of Gerry Anderson's shows. He started on "Torchy the Battery boy" ( 1957 )and ended on "Space 1999" ( 1975 ). My opinion is that his best work during this time, was the special effects he did for "Thunderbirds" (64-67).
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Sept 10, 2005 21:56:43 GMT -8
Post by bratt on Sept 10, 2005 21:56:43 GMT -8
This isn't exactly a black and white issue. How do you qualify "The Best"? Do you ask what looked the most realistic? Trendy? Groundbreaking? Best for what they had to work with? There are dozens of reasons The Matrix was better than Jurassic park, but they were completely different types of movies. 2001 was years ahead of hollywood, effects wise.(Course then Lucas "borrowed" half of the shots from that movie for Ep. 4)
My choice is Matrix, only because it was groundbreaking on a level that didn't exist before its release. And, Bullet time rocks...
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Sept 10, 2005 22:02:49 GMT -8
Post by ihoppoet on Sept 10, 2005 22:02:49 GMT -8
i want to change vote, i think the oscar for best vfx of all time should go to, the envolope please?
SPACEBALLS
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Sept 11, 2005 19:16:51 GMT -8
Post by george on Sept 11, 2005 19:16:51 GMT -8
Spaceballs was actualy one of the movies ideas I was thinking of submitting for our project... Spaceballs Rocks!
"You idiots! These are not them! You've captured their stunt doubles!"
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Sept 11, 2005 20:48:35 GMT -8
Post by achiesa on Sept 11, 2005 20:48:35 GMT -8
my vote goes to 2001. its effects were a jump and worked fantastically.
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Sept 12, 2005 0:09:39 GMT -8
Post by cybertron on Sept 12, 2005 0:09:39 GMT -8
Spaceballs was actualy one of the movies ideas I was thinking of submitting for our project... Spaceballs Rocks! "You idiots! These are not them! You've captured their stunt doubles!" I couldn't agree more. Here are some more lines: "Who Are you ? Barf.... Not here mister, this is a mercedes" "Why didn't anyone tell me my a-s-s was so big ?!?" "It is just a spaceship... It is a transformer!" "Checking in ? What the hell is all this ?" "Hey stop looking at my can... sorry." And to my opinion, the best part of the entire film : the alien in the space diner! "Hello my darling. hello my honey, hello my rag-time gal" A huge tribute to Aliens and to Chuck Jones' classic cartoon "One froggy evening"
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Sept 12, 2005 11:22:43 GMT -8
Post by george on Sept 12, 2005 11:22:43 GMT -8
"Why didn't anyone tell me my a-s-s was so big ?!?" I swear I use that line once a week.. it still makes me laugh everytime.. although I do get lots of strange looks...
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Sept 12, 2005 21:47:12 GMT -8
Post by cybertron on Sept 12, 2005 21:47:12 GMT -8
Oh man George that was funny. Although I never heard you say that phrase Michael
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Sept 12, 2005 22:29:17 GMT -8
Post by george on Sept 12, 2005 22:29:17 GMT -8
maybe once a month i it just makes me laugh cause that scene is so d**n funny.
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